In class we discussed the importance of the environment, moral role models, and moral reasoning in character education. View two short videos from ESPN Outside the Lines: Point Missed - Point Made and 100-0 Coach Speaks. To view the videos (click here).
What type of impact will the coaches actions and words have on their student-athletes when they are done playing. Were each of the coaches profiled moral role-models? Why or why not. Share your thoughts. From previous class discussion and your personal experience, what type of characteristics distinguish a coach or sport leader as a positive moral role model?
The coach of the 100-0 winning team may be a moral role-model, but in this instance he didn't step up, becuase his student-athletes may not remember much about the game - but only the media hype and wondering what would have went differently if they had a different coach. In the other example both coaches were moral role-models. First the coach of the team with the student-athlete who's mother died offering to cancel the game and putting his player first was a huge statement to the whole team about the importance of the game to him. Also, the other team's coach to direct the missed free-throws gave everybody there that day an expereince to build off of. So was the first example a terrible event, not to me. But it certainly was a missed opportunity to teach and show the athletes what matters most in life. The players from both teams in the latter example will always remember that day and it will give them a compass for future decisions.
ReplyDeleteAs the 100-0 coach sits there and says he did everything to teach his girls not destroy the morale of the losing players, he is simply lying in his statement. The video is proof that the girls were trying to run up the score. Why were they attempting steals, or executing fast breaks? He should have told his players to let the other team shoot the ball, and slow the ball down on a fast break to let the clock drain. He seems like a decent character, but I think he is denying the fact that he got caught in the moment along with everyone else, and didn't think of the consequences. On the other hand, the two coaches in the first situation are definitely moral role models. They both showed respect to the loss of the player's mother by doing everything possible to comfort him in the situation. Offering to cancel the game and missing the free throws sends the message that life and personal development are more important than the score of a game. The players will never remember what happened athletically in that game, they will only take from it the moral lesson that was displayed that night by the coaches.
ReplyDeleteI don’t buy what this guy is telling! Think his actions contradict everything he is attempting to prove in this video. He says he tried to do everything he could to teach his girls not to run up the score or destroy the morale of the other team. However, he did not alter his coaching style in order to do so. He should have set up a defense with less pressure in order to allow the other team to have a better chance of scoring. Also, he should have instructed his girls not to go for steal or score fast break points. He just needs to admit that during the game, when he had to make decisions, he failed to make the right ones. He made a mistake and he needs to admit it instead of trying to defend his actions. In contrast with that coach, the two coaches in the first situation are moral role models. They showed the players what it meant to be a moral, responsible adult but doing everything possible to comfort the player who lost his mother. They showed that winning and losing the game is not as important as doing what is right. They cared moral about human relationships than winning a competition. All the players will see this and model their behavior after these moral role models.
ReplyDeleteThe coach of the team who outscored their opponents 100-0 is probably seen as a national joke right now. How can you possibly say that you werent trying to run the score up. When your team is up that much at halftime, you have to realize that you have an inferior opponent and you need to do to such things as dribble the clock out in order to not run up the score. You can still work on plays and better your players by not scoring. All you have to do is not shoot the ball! And honestly, I know a shutout in basketball in pretty cool, but if you are playing against such an inferior opponent, whats the use? I dont know where this guy gets his jollies, but he is a very immoral and unethical man who cant admit the truth. The other coaches, however, are role models because they were trying to do everything in their power to comfort a kid whose mother just died. They realized that life is more than sports. They realized that when it comes to matter such as this, winning is nothing. These coaches saw that the finer things in life, such as relationships and family, preside over everything else.
ReplyDeleteI think that this video just proves that the 100-0 coach had non moral intentions when his team won by this margin. He said that he tried to make his team stop running up the score, but I call BS. If he really wanted to try and make his team stop scoring points at the rate they were going, he should have put in all of the players that hardly play, not let his starters touch the floor. I believe that he made a really unethical decision when he allowed his team to do that to the opposing team and instead of takign responsiblity, he is just defending his actions. That does not seem very fair to me and it is not showing his players how to have good sportsmanship. I believe that coaches have a major impact on players when they are done playing with them. I believe that I still go by many of the same morals that my coaches taught me when I was in high school. Even though the palyers might not think it at the time, they take away a lot more then they prob think.
ReplyDeleteI honestly do not think the 100-0 coach set an acceptable example of what it is to be a good moral role-model. He claims that he was just telling his girls to keep up with the morale of the team and not run up the score, but the whole time, the only team who was scoring was his team. I think he knew exactly what he was doing which makes all the difference is making moral judgments. When confronted by the media, I guess he had to find an excuse for his actions because he didnt realize the consequences on judgments of his character. On the other hand, the other 2 coaches showed a great example of being a moral role model. They showed compassion by placing themselves in their player's shoes which ultimately reflects their respect and responsibility towards their student-athletes. It also shows the other players that our lives are more important than a game and thats the kind of behavior that a student-athlete could really value from.
ReplyDeleteThe fact of the matter is, the only people that know exactly what happened in that 100-0 game were those in the stands and on the court that day. However, the edited video does show many steals and fast break attempts by the winning team, which I believe Coach Grimes should have stopped. The three pointer in the 3rd quarter when the score was 70 or 80 to 0 probably should have been stopped as well. I do not believe that Coach Grimes was sincere in his comments about not running up the score, that 100 points was not a goal, and that he did not mean to hurt the morale of the opposing team. He should have told his team after the first quarter to slow things down a bit, no fast breaks or three point attempts, just play solid defense and run a half court offense. A coach can be a positive role model when he takes responsibility for himself and those around him, this includes his opposition. By running up the score in this contest, Coach Grimes was not responsible and did not display characteristics of a positive role model. Responsibility, respect, and sportsmanship go hand in hand, and this coach did not demonstrate any of these.
ReplyDeleteThese stories are on different sides of the spectrum. First, 100-0, Coach Grimes how can you justify that? How can you say you will not apologize for that? Grimes did not live up to being a good role model for anyone in this situation. There is no way he can justify running up the score that much on a team that was inferior in skills to his. I mean if one of the main excuses was to make his team better, I do not understand how any of this accomplished those things. This whole situation is unjustifiable. There were plenty of things that he could have done to not run up the score. The second situation,those coaches were def. moral role models. I understand this, because I had coaches like this. In high school my grandfather died in the middle of the season. All the coaches were there for me. They told me whatever I needed to not be afraid to ask. If it was time off or just someone to talk to. I was grateful for that. To me that is a positive role model and definitely coaches who put there players first.
ReplyDeleteI think it is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect and honorable approach to competition. There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become one-sided. I do not think this coach is moral role model. Winning team coaches could slow down his players for other team. However the important coach's role is winning. THerefore he might let his players to play their best. I think the other team coach is moral role model. Even they were losing by many points, they did not give up and played until game is done. I think they should have rule to finish the game when it is one-sided like 50 or 60 points up.
ReplyDeleteI feel that both coaches are good examples of moral role models in their own right. The boy's basketball coach who told his players who miss the free throws showed in his own way how to be moral by not allowing his opposition to be penalized for what he saw as an action that was not worth the punishment. This showed a level of respect and dedication to the cause of being in a position to have an impact and show people how you can always do the right thing.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, the coach of the girl's basketball team stuck by his morals that you should always put forth an honest effort and play hard and fairly, which they did. However in this case, I do not agree with his strategy of pushing the floor once they forced a turnover, dribble down the clock, pass the ball around, and shoot. Fast break points in a blowout at the high school level is unacceptable. Could it have been avoided? Probably. Was the game over before it started? Obviously. This contest should have never been on the schedule, the person responsible is whoever decided this game should even take place, not the coaches for coaching in it.
Whatever the coach comments on before, during, or after the game, it affects the players around them. When they are done playing is very key. If the team does well, he usually keeps a positive attitude. When the team does not do well, the coach still must find positive things to talk about. As for the coach that lost 100-0, he did his best to talk about all of the positives. The game seemed to be scheduled unfairly, but that does not mean there is room for improvement. He was a role model because he showed his girls that there is more to the game then winning. A coach as a positive role model is someone that does not give up. Meaning give up on their players as well as their program. A good role model needs to stick to their moral values and apply them to the best of his ability.
ReplyDeleteI think coaches have a lot of impact on student athletes after their participation in sport. A lot of that impact is what coaches have taught student athletes based on their mannerisms, or actions and words. Most people learn by example. If you see a good Samaritan helping a person walk up the stairs, and them maybe next time you will help someone carry a heavy item. As an athlete, you are going to remember how you were coached during practice or during a game. You are going to remember what you coach would say to you in regards to personal situations. I remember my tennis coach in high school as a very talkative person. He always wanted to know about you and make sure that everything in life is just dandy. Before fixing a problem he saw, he would always ask us first if we knew what the problem was. So whenever I see a problem or something going awry, I take a considerate approach to it. In the Outside the Lines videos, both coaches were moral according to their values. In Point Missed – Point Made, the opposing coach and team players were very understanding of the situation. They showed great integrity and moral character in missing the free throws. The coach has done a great job teaching his kids moral character and the greater importance of life. In the other video, the coach from the team that won 100-0 was very adamant that his team played the way they normally play. A team should always remain competitive and play with heart throughout a game. Some of the characteristics that distinguish a coach or sport leader as a positive moral role model include honesty, justice, fairness, beneficence, and patience.
ReplyDeleteThe 100-0 coach was shown stating that he didn't want to ruin the other teams morale and have good sportsmanship. I'm sorry I do not care what your excuses are a 100-0 game is inexcusable and it does damper a teams morals. The coach was asked who takes responsibility for this game and he could not step up and take responsibility. Instead he just beat around the bush and would not take the blame. That is not a good role-model for the athletes. It shows them that in the future they can rub another teams nose in the dirt yet they don't have to take the blame. That is absurd. Yes I agree with the coach that they should have turned the scoreboard off at a certain point and kept the clock running, but the coach should have known who they were playing to begin with so they should have not done full court press from the start. A good role model coach brings the best out of each player and pushes them to their top level of performance, but at the same time knows when to step off the gas and not destroy other teams morals. They need to be teaching honesty, respect, responsibility, justice and beneficence. I do not think that the 100-0 coach was teaching any of those aspects to his girls.
ReplyDeleteThe coach of the 100-0 winning team is not a moral role model. I’m sure he did not mean to harm anyone in the extremely large defeat, but knowing you would win the game most likely happened about 50-0. So there is not excuse to let the score get so out of hand. However the coach of the Dekalb team, who requested his players to purposely miss the free throws in the game, showed everyone what a true moral role model looks like. This story is one of my favorite stories. The moral and ethical values that all of the individuals involved (both group of players, both coaches, and the fans) all shows what sports can teach us. Also being able to go from a few hours prior, losing you mother and to playing the game that night, shows just how much heart the kid has!
ReplyDeleteI don't believe Coach Grimes one bit when saying his intention wasn't to score 100 points if it was true that the spectators and players were getting excited as the team approached triple digits; 100-0 is not an arbitrary result, especially when the other team scores zero points in a basketball game. Respect towards your opponents and recognizing that the game was won is an important attribute for a coach in teaching moral character. what he emphasized were social traits, instead of taking every second of the shot clock. In Point Missed-Point Made, it was a moving story of respect and love over the significance of winning, and still held the integrity of the game loyal. Both coaches respected each other's decisions and found a way to unite everyone through their admirable moral actions.
ReplyDeleteI think that coaches that pursue competition at the highest level are moral role models. They want the best for their kids on and off the court and are willing to go the extra mile to make sure that they teach their athletes good moral character. A coach that lets a team win by such a lopsided score is not a moral coach. I do agree about the Dekalb coach that he did what was best for everyone involved in the game which showed good moral character. I feel that in the case of coach Grimes that the fact that he wouldn't even apologize for his actions shows that he is not a moral coach.
ReplyDeleteI think that the coach who won 100-0 could of made so much more effort to ensure that he didnt just completely destroy the other team both physically and mentally. I do think he was lying, and the only reason that that parent would not give up the uncensored tape was because he was on the winning team and probably agreed with what the coach did. On the other hand the other coach in this blog was all about his kids, after the kids mom died, he asked whether the kid what he wanted to do, he wasnt worried about how the game was going to turn out, he was more worried about he kid
ReplyDeleteCoaches should recognize the unique opportunity that they have to be a positive influence in the lives of their athletes. They can greatly change the direction of their players' lives either for the better or the worse. Both of the coaches profiled here were moral role models, with one being negative and the other positive. The Dallas Covenant coach made a mistake by allowing the score to become so lopsided, but he made an even bigger mistake by not apologizing for it. This definitely sent the wrong message to the players on his team, who he had the responsibility to teach. The coach of Dekalb took advantage of the opportunity to teach his players that there are things in life that are more important than sport. This is an important lesson for a coach to teach their players. Coaches who understand their responsibility as moral role models will teach their players respect and integrity.
ReplyDeleteI think that the coach of the 100-0 team has been a role model before, but not in this situation. I believe that he is in the position he is in because he has demonstrated that he is a role model and he has probably done a lot of things in his career to get to that point. In the game that they won though I don't think he was a role model because he should have done something like run out the clock and take fewer shots and not made the other team feel that inferior. For the others i think it is a great thing they did when there was the death. I believe that the coaches were great role models and showed that its just a game and there is more to life than a competition. They showed compassion for the player whose mother passed. This is a great gesture by the coach and shows that he cares for his players on a personal level and shows that he wasn’t worried about the game, but this player’s grief and emotions.
ReplyDeleteThe winning coach may have a bad shadow cast on him. From the video, it does look different from what he has said, but I think we should look at the development of his players. It is important to realize they are developing too. I think the coaches comments will have a positive lasting affect on his players because he focused on keeping up your hard work. With how things are, staying strong is important. Because of the media representation, he is stated to not be a rolemodel.
ReplyDeleteThe losing coach also had a great point of view. Perseverance is important with how today is as well. He kept his girls out there and pushed them to work hard. He is seen as a role-model for his encouragement and perseverance.
A coach who is that positive role-model has certain characteristics. They will care about the bigger picture, about the person, and the lessons that can be learned from each expierence.
The coach of the 100-0 winning team may be a moral role-model, in the video he talks about making sure that the safety of all the opposing players was a concern, also the coach who won a 100-0 was put in a pretty hard situation. he says they played the game the right way, his girls didn't mess around in a jokingly manner. They just played the game that they love. I think the Media took this way out of proportion, What is the coach supposed to do? run down the shot clock and miss on purpose that is disrespecting the game! It may make the parents of the opposing team feel better, but what about the girls perspective it seems like they havent had a problem with the situation. Coaches are role models and their choices reflect how people perceive them, its unfortunate that he was fired because of one game. Thanks to the Media a man lost his a job in which he loved and I am positive he has made an impact on his players lives
ReplyDeleteCoaches are one of the most important figure in a child’s life. A coach is there to guide the children to follow and learn how to play fair and try hard. Coaches are supposed to be their when a child might have a question they may not be able to ask their parents. I think the coaches were all moral role models in one way or another. I feel the coach that allowed his team to beat a team 100-0 was a little harsh. At the same time the team was just playing the team should not be panelized for not allow the other team to compete at the same level of the other team. A good characteristic for a coach to have is being confident. A coach has to be able to comfort the players and allowing them to understand the coach is in charge.
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